What point does thrasymachus aim to illustrate with story


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Thrasymachus says: "[Since] Justice is really the good of another, the advantage of the strong and the ruler, and harmful to the one who obeys and serves... [Therefore] an just man always gets less than an unjust man." With the lecture notes above in mind and looking at this reading, Explain what he means by this. (note that it is an argument)

• What point does Thrasymachus aim to illustrate with his story about the 'ring'? What might the ring be a metaphor for?

• What, according to Callicles, is the difference between conventional morality and the 'law of nature'? What is 'justice' according to nature? Who then creates 'justice' according to convention?

• Socrates has told us that it is worse to do injustice than to suffer it. Callicles argues to the contrary that it is worse to suffer an injustice than to do one. Given what each tells us about the good life (human excellence vs what pleases me), why does each hold their respective positions?

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